Coming Back to Love: the podcast

This episode features an interview with Bradley and Joanie Rapier, a couple known for their accomplishments in the fields of dance, acting, and production. Host Karen Walker Cohn highlights their vibrant personalities and the unique journey of their nearly three-decade-long marriage. The Rapiers are credited with founding the hip-hop dance company, The Groovaloos, and Bradley has worked on various projects, including films like 'La La Land' and 'A Goofy Movie'. The couple recently moved to Austin with their two sons, and they are recognized for bringing people together through their productions and events.

During the interview, Bradley and Joanie share insights into their marriage, emphasizing the importance of unity, adventure, and mutual support. They discuss Joanie's personal journey of rediscovering confidence and Bradley's evolving perspective on the partnership aspect of their marriage. The conversation touches on themes of growth, self-awareness, and the unique dynamics of their relationship. Despite Bradley's enthusiastic admiration for Joanie, she humorously expresses discomfort with the effusive compliments, highlighting the contrast in their backgrounds and personal experiences. This episode captures Bradley and Joanie’s dynamic, showcasing their shared experiences, individual growth, and the genuine admiration they have for each other.

“And we walk together in our marriage with a lot of adventure, a lot of willingness to step out and do things. I think about what you said and how, you know, when you get married, you become one flesh. That starts to happen, that invisible, miraculous process. And in the practical steps of it, just walking with Joanie and seeing … how not just our love deepens and how we support each other and those things that are great to have, but just really seeing how we are so different but we are one. ” - Bradley Rapier

Bradley and Joanie Rapier's journey began twenty-nine years ago after meeting in an acting class in Los Angeles. Married within a year they have lived the majority of their lives together in LA, having recently moved to Austin with their two boys. Bradley grew up in Canada, Joanie in California. They are both the youngest siblings in their respective families which may account for their mutual adventurous and spontaneous approach to life. Together they are known for bringing people together, hosting and producing unique gatherings of all sizes, and forming The Groovaloos, an iconic hip hop dance company based in LA. Joanie is known for bringing the JOY, Bradley brings the GROOVE. 

Bradley has performed in films from La La Land to A Goofy Movie, and with artists from Diana Ross to Gwen Stefani. His many collaborations range from the director of Hamilton to Dancing with the Stars and So You Think You Can Dance. He uses his 30+ years in street dance culture as an award-winning choreographer and performer to create GROOVE experiences. Bradley uses powerful analogies from street dance culture and his life experience to activate and guide leaders and teams out of comfort zones and restrictive mindsets into the CIRCLE living fully alive in the GROOVE. Joanie continues to galvanize and unify the community wherever they go. She remains the glue at their gatherings, partnering with Bradley in production and at the Rapier home where she manages the household and their son’s careers. 

For more info on events or to contact us visit https://www.bradleyrapier.com/ 

Guiding Leaders, Entrepreneurs & Teams to STEP IN THE CIRCLE Founder/CEO - The Groovaloos® | Groove Theory® | GROOVE Mindset® Speaker | Producer | Host | Award-winning Choreographer | Groove Guide https://www.bradleyrapier.com/

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Karen Walker Cohn: [00:00:00]  If this is your first time to Coming Back To Love, the podcast, welcome. We're so glad you found us. If you're a regular listener, welcome back. Either way, you're not here by accident. I'm your host, Karen Walker Cohn, a wife, a mom, entrepreneur, friend and dreamer who is ready to step into more of who I am created to be. I am committed to personal transformation for global impact. Now, this podcast may be very different from others. Our guests don't come with a topic or agenda. They come open and ready to receive and deliver the message that's meant for you. You will also notice our podcast is not overly produced. This is on purpose. Our hope is we will inspire you to step into who you're created to be, regardless of how it may look. Take inspired action on that book, business, relationship, and yes, podcast or whatever it is on your heart. In my experience, my mess usually ends up being my message. I encourage you to approach our time today with a beginner's mindset and with openness to receive what is meant for you.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:02:20] In this episode, I'm speaking with Bradley and Joanie Rapier. I've followed this fun and vibrant couple for almost three decades. For those of you that don't know, I have a background in fashion, dance, and acting and it's through these circles I met the wonderful Mr. Rapier and his stunning wife, Joanie. I've got so much to tell you about this beautiful couple. I could do a podcast on just their list of accomplishments alone. Bradley and Joanie met in an acting class about 29 years ago in Los Angeles. They married within a year, and they have lived the majority of their lives in LA, and they just recently moved to Austin with their two boys who have beautiful careers of their own. The Rapiers are known for bringing people together, and they have produced some really unique gatherings of all sizes. They are also known for forming the iconic and multiple award winning hip hop dance company, The Groovaloos. You may have seen Bradley performing in films like 'La La Land' and 'A Goofy Movie'. Yes, he has been made into a cartoon. He's also worked with artists from Diana Ross to Gwen Stefani, and his collaborations range from the director of 'Hamilton' to 'Dancing with the Stars' and 'So You Think You Can Dance'. He uses his 30 plus years as an award winning choreographer and a performer to create groove experiences. Bradley uses powerful analogies from street dance culture and his life experience to activate and guide others out of comfort zones and restrictive mindsets into the circle, living fully alive and in the groove. Joanie continues to unify the community wherever they go. Her joy is absolutely infectious. She is the glue at their gatherings, one of which I recently attended. It was so good. Joanie partners with Bradley in production and at the Rapier home, where she manages the household in addition to their two sons' busy careers. I am so excited to share this Coming Back To Love moment with Bradley and Joanie Rapier.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:03:36] I look at you guys, I just can't help it. And then sometimes I'll remember - and I have three screens, so this is one camera here, one camera there - so I'm like, uh, I just rather look at you guys and it's okay. My husband does that too. See that little green light? That's what you look at. Yeah. Okay.

 

Joanie: [00:03:57] You don't see facial expressions.

 

Bradley: [00:03:58] Yeah. I know, you gotta figure out a way to put the green light where the face is.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:04:02] Exactly! And I think there's ways to do that.

 

Bradley: [00:04:04] There's this new app where they...

 

Joanie: [00:04:07] ... it makes your eyes.

 

Bradley: [00:04:08] Yeah. You, I don't know how, like, you do the whole thing like this. And then your eyes get shifted over, like it's...

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:04:14] I love, I saw that too, because, you know, sometimes when you're reading scripts and that and you're like, you can see your eyes moving on the script. Oh, you guys, thank you so much. I felt like, a huge, I just in my heart, you know, because I've had the privilege of interviewing Bradley before and this time I was like, no, we're having them both. We need Bradley and Joanie together and you know, who knows why, but we're about to find out. So I would love if you guys would just take a moment. And this is how we start it out, with a question, and then we'll see where we go from there.

 

Bradley: [00:05:00] Okay. That's great.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:05:01] And it helps me to center too and take a few deep breaths before we start. When you guys hear the title of this podcast, Coming Back To Love: Inspiring Stories on Shifting Perspectives, what experience from your life as a couple comes to mind? You guys got the biggest smiles on your face and you're both in sync, I know it.

 

Bradley: [00:05:30] I would say, you know, what's been amazing in our marriage, our relationship is, you know, we're both the youngest in our families. We both are pretty spontaneous. We're different in our makeup and how we are wired but we're a similar adventure spirit. And we walk together in our marriage with a lot of adventure, a lot of willingness to step out and do things. I think about what you said and how, you know, when you get married, you become one flesh, that starts to happen, that invisible, miraculous process. And in the practical steps of it, just walking with Joanie and seeing how just how not just our love deepens and how we support each other and those things that are great to have, but just really seeing how we are so different but we are one. Coming back to that one love in a sense of wow, this process of really becoming one with the individualness within that mix. How we're of one accord, are more and more aware of the unity we have, aware of the desire to have, you know, stronger leadership, parents, our own marriage, the excitement for things together. We both are still excited about things that we're developing. But there's this bond that I think of coming back to that, just that's our base. That's our foundation. So that's kind of that comes to me.

 

Joanie: [00:07:11] Can you remind me what was the second part of it?

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:07:13] Uh, yeah. It was, What experience from your life comes to mind?

 

Joanie: [00:07:20] Uh, well, for me--

 

Bradley: [00:07:21] -- oh, good experience, like what experience?

 

Joanie: [00:07:23] Experience. Well, I want to touch on the first part. It's very interesting to say Coming Back To Love, because that means that you departed from love and you're coming back to it. I think with marriage, it's one of those things where people think you fall in and out of love, but you don't, because when you love somebody and you take those vows, you choose. It's a daily choice. And I think there's often times because humans are not perfect, we can move away from love, it doesn't mean it no longer exists or that it's gone, but that you often have to come back to it. And that's a choice. You can choose to leave it. You can choose to not see the good and focus on what's not going right. Or you can choose to see the best in the person and to come back to it, because I think that's why a lot of times marriages don't work is because they choose not to come back to you. And it does take two people. Like this marriage would not work if it was only me coming back to it and coming back to it. It does take two. And so when you have two people willing to continuously come back to love, and that just means accepting what you can't change. And--

 

Bradley: [00:08:41] What's she saying, what's she saying?

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:08:42] What just happened there?

 

Joanie: [00:08:44] You can't change about each other after almost 28 years.

 

Bradley: [00:08:48] You know what I think of too, though? Like, you know, there's a great story, you know, King Solomon talks, he writes in Ecclesiastes, he writes the whole thing about after he's experienced everything in life, you know, he's the wealthiest man at that time. All wisdom, all knowledge, all wealth. And he writes a whole book about it. And he's experienced everything, the good and the bad, and comes back to, it's a bit almost morbid where he's saying like nothing means anything anymore. It's all, it's all a waste, except for the love, right? Except for understanding what he's committed to. And that, I feel that a bit too. Like what, as we have been able to experience so many things in our marriage professionally, personally, on so many levels, and as we continue to thankfully just be inspired and excited about the new adventures and we're in a new season now, my mother's going to come and live with us, that's a whole new season now.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:09:45] I'm headed there too, so I want to pick your brain on that. That's awesome.

 

Bradley: [00:09:49] You know, our boys are getting older and my daughter obviously growing up in Canada, but watching that, as you're excited, you're watching things sort of strip away like, or drift away and not in a negative. But just so you sort of realize, you know, you're older, you have those relationships, but they're the core of who you are, who you're designed to be, who we are designed to be as a couple, starts to kind of become more clear because the other things are like, well, it's a bit of noise, white noise news, and you guys, we are we're doing this and we're living life and we're learning still. But it becomes that purity of that bond that that almost like this is us, you know, at the end of the day, apart from the ultimate greatness that we'll step into, we are in it. This is it. You know, the kids will go on, you know, we'll be in a place just the two of us. And the awareness of that in a beautiful way, like, I love this woman and being with her and we thankfully enjoy each other's company. And we've had, you know, our marriage is kind of bizarre. We, you know, we spent a lot of time together. I mean, I don't know how she tolerates me because we're together so often because of what we do. We're both been sort of self-employed, our own sort of activators of what we do, creating projects. Sure I go here and there for certain work, but we're usually working on the house together. Even before Covid, we were together creating productions and producing together and all that stuff. So it's kind of thankfully we have that already set down, right? Like think about a moment...

 

Joanie: [00:11:38] No, she said what experience?

 

Bradley: [00:11:39] No no no. Well, yeah. Like yeah, I was thinking if there was, it's kind of hard. Like there's not really an experience that you'd pull out. They might be examples of things, you know.

 

Joanie: [00:11:48] Yeah. Yeah. Well...

 

Bradley: [00:11:50] I mean I think what's amazing, I think what you brought up is what, I mean, the way you've been handling. How are, you know, oh she's going back...

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:12:02] Oh, goodness. So okay, I know we were talking about you guys as a couple and choosing to come back to love. You know what?

 

Bradley: [00:12:14] I was saying that how things sort of fall away over time, in a sense.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:12:17] Yeah.

 

Bradley: [00:12:18] You start to become aware of, at least the way I'm seeing it, is just as I'm maturing, I guess, or stepping into new and new seasons, more awareness, all the things we have, the individual growth and as a marriage sort of seeing, being aware of, I guess that invisible and real sort of stripping away of things that are wonderful and may be good, but they're kind of not as important. And seeing the core of what's valuable and how valuable this is and how beautiful it is and how wonderful it is and how powerful it is, and, you know, and all those things.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:12:55] Yeah, yeah. That's awesome. I mean, oh lord, so I have something that I want to ask now from, because I've known you guys a long time, I mean Bradley I think I was 18 or something when I met you, 17 or 18. It's like we've known each other a long time. And Joanie, if you're open to it, what's really interesting to me is that I have never seen you so much in front as I have seen you like, I would say in the last, I don't know is it maybe 2 to 5 years, somewhere in there? Like it was a long time before I actually met you, but I'm also noticing, and I don't know if this it's just me or not, but I'm also noticing how you, I think I've seen you in the last five years, how you've become more and more and more of who you've been created to be. Like you're shining so brightly and it just keeps getting brighter and brighter. Can you tell me about that? Like am I seeing that correctly or is that just me?

 

Joanie: [00:14:18] Well, what first came to my mind is when you said, for the last little while, I'm like, she's probably going to say like 2 to 3 years. And then you said 2 to 5. And I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. So yes, I mean, there's actually a clear, there was a very clear changing point in my life, which was I have always been that person, like even from back in high school, I was always a little bit of a ham, like this guy, we're both the youngest ham, but over time I lost my confidence and it had to do with my self-image. I did not have self-image after having kids. I had gained weight and I didn't like the way I looked or felt. And so therefore I liked to hide. So a lot of women, we do that. So I really did lose my confidence for quite a bit of time. I wasn't in any place, mentally or physically, to take that role that I really felt like was God-given. So for a number of years, and it was in 2019 that I finally found something that worked for me, and I lost 45 pounds. And when I lost that weight, I felt like I found myself again. I found that confidence because I was okay with shining. I was okay with being in front of the camera. So it really, I mean, not everybody is like that. Some people can be absolutely fine. That's not where they put their, I don't want to say just worth like that's not where I put my worth, but for me, it took that journey of mine to get my confidence back.

 

Joanie: [00:15:49] And then once I had that confidence, I just was surrounding myself with people who lifted me up. I think the people you surround yourself with and I mean, he's always been my biggest cheerleader, he's always even through all of that it was never him that was like, oh, honey, you really should, you know, hide. No, no, never. He's always been my biggest cheerleader. And I got more cheerleaders along the way. And I just had a season of time where I really felt empowered. I was being lifted up. And so that really gave me confidence to explore the different ways God wants me to express myself and how I can give back to the world. And so yeah, so that's where that's come from. And I'm still, you know, figuring it out like you are. Congrats for starting the new podcast. There's always something new around the corner, right? Especially when you are looking to seek what God has next for us. Because it's never like this is what it is and now I'm retiring, and now I'm going to go take a cruise for the next few years. I don't know, I know a few people like that, but that's never been our journey, either individually or as a family. It's always like, okay, God, what do you have next? And it's exciting. It's exciting. But, you know, always, I'm always contending for my health, always contending for to just better myself and sometimes I get lost and take a few, take a few curves. But yeah, I'm on my journey.

 

Bradley: [00:17:10] But I wanted to say in terms of our marriage, it's kind of interesting because, you know, walking alongside Joanie, you know, early on even though I'm grateful that for Joanie, I've been there for her. But going way back, going way back, I remember when I wasn't so, I wasn't aware, it was more of a personal thing, I didn't understand how much we were a team. It wasn't anything I was doing against our marriage or whatever, but just my own personal stuff that I had been raised in a culture and a bit of an environment that was kind of like, I can take care of myself, I can figure it out kind of thing. And so understanding the partnership of marriage, I wasn't quite cluing into initially. And so this is a small example of, you know, is something like this where I'd be getting ready to go somewhere and then joining me saying, hey, babe, like maybe you should like maybe those shoes you might want to change. And I'd be like, what? Like I get defensive because I'd be like, you know, I do this, you know, kind of thing or whatever. And it's weird, it's weird. I think when I think about it, it took me a few years in our first part of our marriage for me to realize, oh my gosh, Joanie's on my, Joanie's on my side.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:18:26] Wow.

 

Bradley: [00:18:26] It was weird. I knew we were married and we were together, but I still had a bit of this thing of not understanding to really step into this bond of togetherness and just my own growth of understanding people. What does it mean to be on someone's side? And so there was an awareness that grew in that, watching her be, wow, she's really for me. And then I started to recognize and I initially was a bit slower to the game, the discernment she had in our marriage of just things, you know? You know, I'm just like, hey, this sounds great, that sounds great, this sounds good. And then, you know, many times, which thankfully I clued in, it didn't take forever, but when she'd go I don't know, honey, I don't know that one, that seems a little shaky. And I go, no, it seems like a great thing. And then it would go south and finally, and so but so what I'm getting at is that as she's developed also...

 

Joanie: [00:19:14] I'm laughing because I'm remembering some of these experiences.

 

Bradley: [00:19:20] And you know, and then sort of, so that bond sort of getting to see that, but then what I've loved to see, like there was a season just before we got to Austin, where we are now, and there was, we were working through some different groups and we had a few years before that produced this huge fundraiser and that she produced that I was a part of. Well, I directed it, but she she did the hard--

 

Joanie: [00:19:47] I hired you.

 

Bradley: [00:19:47] She hired me. And in Beverly Hills and it was a massive fundraiser and beautiful, beautiful thing. But the point is, her skills at doing that, at being that part of her life where she can galvanize and coordinate, and then I can come in with a creativity and whatever, but it was in that moment I remember we got really encouraged by some friends said, you guys got to become that now. You guys are a producing team, like just start going out and produce for everybody. But she said, you know, I don't want to do that unless I care about the project, which in hindsight, you know, and I just yeah, okay sounds good, you know. And you missed out on doing that and this, well, we did other things and but she was understanding who she was. I was seeing the skill. And then going back to what I mentioned a second ago, we were doing a certain, certain relationship with a company that I was doing a lot of work for.

 

Bradley: [00:20:38] And they, and she was, they brought her in, but they weren't fully recognizing her as who she was. Now she wasn't quite as confident enough to speak to them about who she was, she was figuring that out. But it was just, it was pretty, it was difficult in some parts because I was having them, knowing they weren't seeing her fully and putting her in roles that weren't fully for her, they were honoring her how they could, but it was a mixed match. But it was beautiful, to be honest, because going through that, which is there were some tough times in that, coming through that to where we are now, I saw another level of Joanie kind of going, I know, I know more who I am, I know more what I'm about, and that season, I think, added to that in the sense that that awakening where now I'm watching Joanie, yeah, she's like, like tied to that other thing she shared is just no, and now also the role of our marriage, like I think I've, whether it's been intentional, well, it's been, whether it's been, it just has happened where I'm now, I just desire it more like, honey, what do you think? Like what's the discernment you have here?

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:21:43] That's wisdom, Bradley.

 

Bradley: [00:21:45] Yeah, yeah. And it's been like we're just excited to kind of like, you know, we push each other in a way. I say honey, take charge of that. I say take, you know, it's just the we keep molding the thing where I'm leading the household, but we're working together on all the things we do. And it's beautiful as we both mature, as we both sort of go, where are we and how does it affect this and how do we operate in that? It's just really been beautiful. So I'm loving it. Like I think, like I think she's the greatest, you know, and she gets mad, she's not perfect of course, but she's so inspiring. She's got a great way of leading in her way, producing. She's for this household, like I'm again, I'm a w, I'm this ideator off in the visionary world. I'm not about the details and all the muck and this and that. She's, in a sense this word isn't fair, she's not, because she's, it's more than this, but like, she's like managing my stuff, managing my son, our son's stuff, who's doing his whole career, both sons, the household, keeping it all spinning, keeping it all on this disc, all these discs going at once and just watching, going back, Oh my gosh, this woman's incredible. I'm going, she's funny, you know, her other friends say she should be a stand up comedian. Why shouldn't she do that? You know and you know...

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:23:05] I, for for the listeners, y'all, I'm laughing because I'm watching them on camera. And if you tune in to the YouTube channel, you'll see it. It's like Joanie, just receive it. Receive it, girl.

 

Joanie: [00:23:17] Okay, so it's so funny. I'm sure there's a lot of women who'd be like, I wish my husband spoke about me like that. But it is, it's actually a little embarrassing. It's a little embarrassing. It is. I'm embarrassed by it.

 

Bradley: [00:23:31] She's just like..

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:23:33] Wow.

 

Joanie: [00:23:33] Yeah.

 

Bradley: [00:23:34] When I go anywhere, I don't want anything to happen, we have any gatherings, I want her here. Like, if I go somewhere I want her with, like, even though, yes, I might be the front man for many things, or whatever you call that, you know.

 

Joanie: [00:23:44] But let me tell you why it's embarrassing--.

 

Bradley: [00:23:45] --I want her there because what she brings--

 

Joanie: [00:23:48] --I think when you grow up and not, you don't live in that environment. You know, your dad, your dad, your mom is too, but your dad was very complimenting, wasn't he?

 

Bradley: [00:23:59] My dad was just a big storyteller.

 

Joanie: [00:24:01] I remember, I remember him, I remember, I don't know, but in my family, we cut each other down. Like that, we like--

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:24:09] --That's where we were, too, Joanie, I get it.

 

Bradley: [00:24:13] It still is! The text thread--

 

Joanie: [00:24:15] -- oh, we got a text thread going this morning.

 

Bradley: [00:24:17] They're love, they love each other, they're funny, but they're thing is kinda---

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:24:19] Right.

 

Joanie: [00:24:20] --- It's it's, yeah, but no so--

 

Bradley: [00:24:23] -- you suck but I love you--

 

Joanie: [00:24:25] -- oh my god.

 

Joanie: [00:24:28] But a compliment, sometimes I'm like honey, cut it short, no it's just a little too much. I'm like, and I don't know if it's too much for people hearing it, but it's a little too much, it's a little too much for me. And yeah, I just, I'm just like, okay, move on.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:24:39] It's not enough. I'm hearing it and I'm like, that's not enough. We got to keep going. No, seriously, Joanie, that's, and that's why I wanted to bring it up because I know exactly where you're coming from on that. And I had an experience this weekend where I received an award that was voted on by, you know, 70 people that were on the team. And I, it was really interesting because in my heart, I was like, so, so thankful for this award and I was going up there to receive it. I, I hugged the CEO of the company and I was looking, you see me, because  my husband was taking a video of this. And so now I got, I'm watching the video and I thought I was coming across as so thankful, like I just wanted to hug everybody, thank you for choosing me. I didn't say any of those things. What it looked like on the video was that I ran up there, grabbed the award, hugged her really tight, waved my hands, like, and I said thank you to everybody, and I was actually looking at my name because I was like, are they sure that they called the right name? Let me just verify that it is, I saw the name I--

 

Joanie: [00:26:05] What to do is start thanking everybody when they're like, oh no, sorry, it wasn't you.

 

Bradley: [00:26:08] You thought you were back at that, what was that, the Miss Universe or whatever? Oh my God. Come back.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:26:14] I folded that certificate, and not folded it like, creased it, but folded it together and ran back to my seat as fast as I could.

 

Joanie: [00:26:23] Oh, wow.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:26:23] And it was really interesting to see that video going. And I remember there was a guy at the side as I was walking back, he looked up at me and he's like, just receive it, Karen. So everybody was seeing that as well. And I'm like, oh yeah, I get to learn how to receive my own greatness, and it's even feels weird saying that. But yeah, I get that, and--

 

Joanie: [00:26:49] -- because we are always our own worst critic because, you know, we could have done something better. We, you know, I don't know. That's how I feel. It's like it's hard to accept because I often go to the things I don't do right when you recognize me instead of going, oh, wow, I'm doing all these things great. I often go to the things oh yeah, but didn't do this or I didn't.

 

Bradley: [00:27:10] Well I think but I think I mean, I will say, I mean in perspective of all, like when I, it is, also is the reminder, you know, the greatness that we, the greatness, whatever we get to release, is from a glimpse of greatness larger than ourselves. And the awareness that we, the greatness, is something we get to show people as a reflection of something greater.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:27:35] Wow.

 

Bradley: [00:27:36] And I think it's important to not lose sight of that, that it's not necessarily our greatness, well, I mean, I don't mean to take away from this. It's semantics a little bit, but point being, like, you know, the awareness you get more as you live, I think, that you go, man, like I think about where we're at. There's no way that, there's no way that this happened that that I did this, you know, I mean, there's no way. And the whole lining up of all the miracles that have come together, whether I've worked hard in areas or struggled or all those challenges, just the what's happened is beyond me. And so as people do give, do, you do want to receive. I think as almost taking them, you go like, Oh this is, I'm shown that the love that there is for me, I'm being shown that I'm, that I'm, that there's value in who I am from something greater than me. Not just these people. Keep us in perspective so it doesn't get kind of out of hand where you do think, oh, well, I'm great because it's kind of like the great things we do, were, are part of a larger picture, I think.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:28:47] Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

 

Bradley: [00:28:50] In that way, that way, but I'm just saying if you do that, you can receive it. As a way of saying, oh, thank you, I'm great that I got, you know, and, but if you don't know how to take it that way, it gets so much pressure, you're going, stop saying I'm great because I'm not great. But if you can take it as, oh, they're recognizing greatness in me, that I'm reflecting...

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:29:07] That's right.

 

Bradley: [00:29:08] That way you can take it, I think.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:29:10] Yeah, it's a beingness, y'all, the Amazon guy is here. Or is working on or either the, or the lawn guy or something, because my dogs are going nuts. But, y'all, I appreciate you both here. Look at me in Texas. Have you guys started saying y'all yet?

 

Bradley: [00:29:29] Oh, yeah.

 

Joanie: [00:29:29] I've embraced it, I love it.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:29:36] Oh that's funny. So for the listeners, I have, actually eight years ago today I stepped foot into San Antonio airport and that's actually where I met my husband. So it's really neat. And then you guys have been now in Austin for, what is it, almost two, three years?

 

Joanie: [00:29:55] Four months. Two and a half months?

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:29:56] Wow. And so it's been a couple of years for me. But yeah, I'm now saying y'all. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir.

 

Bradley: [00:30:05] I have a lot of brisket. A lot of brisket. I will say, you know Karen, like for me, I don't know how it is exactly in San Antonio as much, but here in Austin, part of me feels like I walked back into Calgary, Alberta, where I grew up.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:30:17] I call, you know, when I'm telling people about Calgary and how awesome it is. It's like to explain it to Texans, it's like the Texas of the North. And it's just, you know, except a lot colder.

 

Bradley: [00:30:30] That's exactly what I'm saying.

 

Joanie: [00:30:32] You don't have to deal with that too much.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:30:34] No, no.

 

Joanie: [00:30:36] Freeze. One day of freeze.

 

Bradley: [00:30:37] It's still not cold.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:30:38] It's still not cold.

 

Bradley: [00:30:39] Not cold.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:30:39] I know, y'all, I brought my plants in a couple days ago when we were getting all that rain, it was getting a little chilly, brought my plants in, and it's like, oh, and the very next day I'm like, putting it back out in the sun.

 

Joanie: [00:30:52] One day.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:30:54] Anyway. Oh, I appreciate you guys so much. Thank you for all those like wisdom nuggets. And you know you guys, look up Bradley. Check out the show notes. You guys are doing some amazing work. Oh I want to touch on um how that you're working together now I'm seeing like on the groove theory. So. And on, it's not the move, it's the groove, it's a lot of work that Bradley is doing. And I love seeing glimpses of Joanie on the mic. Right? Like both of you guys working together on that. It is so powerful.

 

Bradley: [00:31:34] Well, you know, it's great actually. We just did an event two days ago.

 

Joanie: [00:31:37] And by the way, thank you for coming to one of our...

 

Bradley: [00:31:40] Oh yes. Thank you.

 

Joanie: [00:31:41] Awesome.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:31:42] Of course.

 

Bradley: [00:31:42] The last one we just did actually, Sammy introduced the night. Joanie then set up the thing and then I did the thing. But it was Marcus was filming. It was a full like, it was The Partridge Family on the road there. And no, it was great.

 

Joanie: [00:31:56] Mark, Sammy is such a spitting image of him. No script. Literally. Just introduce Brad, talked about what we're about to do and just freestyled it. Threw you under the bus a little bit? To be humorous.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:32:10] It's amazing. And I can't wait to go to the next one. So y'all, I appreciate you being here. And thank you, thank you, thank you so much. I just love working with you guys and your willingness to just go, yeah, let's hop on and go through all the power outages and the dogs barking and everything like that.

 

Joanie: [00:32:31] Why not?

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:32:32] Thank you guys so much. Appreciate you.

 

Bradley: [00:32:35] Awesome, Karen. Thank you. Great to talk to you and see you again.

 

Karen Walker Cohn: [00:32:38] Yes. Good to see you guys too.

 

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